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to person who respond me and about the conversation between lucas and kaeren,i should say the moment before that conversation, brook told lucas:"i love you and i probably always will".so i dont think lucas thought that she didnt love him back,so i think the conversation was about himself.and yes,he loved brook,he probably loved lindsay,peyton loved jake too,so they can love other people,BUT as i said they cant love other people the way they love eachother and as much as they love eachother.and skillz and brook didnt push him,they made him face his feelings for peyton

its funny,lpers think that blers are not logical and blers think the same about lpers!anyway,i dont care,i just hope lucas finally make up his mind and choose someone and stick with it!and i dont know that if lucas still loves peyton or not,but about the last comment lucas did look at peyton the way he looked at her in season one,specially in season 4 and a few moments in season 5,i can tell you that

LEYTON NEEEDDS TO GIVE IT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you cant say it enough!
>To marry the talk Lucas had with Karen wasnt about Brooke it was about Lucas. And Brooke never really got over Lucas since in S5 she said that she could have lost it all for Lucas Scott. And Peyton on the other was not willing to quit her crappy mail job. That just shows which girl really loves Lucas.
Brucas was not anymore highschool than Leyton. Leyton was together after highschool but they didnt keep in touch and couldnt make it. And back to that denial thing. Yeah I dont know why its so hard for LPers to think that its impossible for Lucas and Peyton to fall in love with other people. Lucas made it pretty clear that he wanted and loved Brooke NOT Peyton in s2 and 3. Both girls were available in S2 but Lucas picked Brooke. And when he said "I do" to Lindsey he was once agian in denial. I am ofcourse being sarcastic. Lucas really did love Lindsey and Brooke. LPers love to play the denial card because they never want to use logic and resonsing for anything. I think the only girl he showed the least interest in was Peyton. After season 1 he didnt even look at her in that way. Until Brooke and Skills pushed him towards Peyton. Peyton herself kept on questioning Lucas' love for Brooke almost like she wanted Lucas to stop fighting for her and start going after her. I cant believe how many times I heard "are you sure Lucas" Lucas showed her her place when he said "you cant help you love Peyton" and he was talking about BROOKE. lol

I really hope Mark reads this and realizes what a huge mistake Leyton was/is.

about the last comment,i dont know that if brucas has a larger fanbase or not,maybe it really has,i dont know but there was some comments that was written twise,by several ids,and it was from both lpers and blers.and about the comment that was written in to response me.im a NH fan,i think they are the main couple of the show,so im not going to die if P and L wont end up together and im not insecure with my life,trust me on that,but about PLB i prefer L with P,and i already said my reasons,but i didnt mean to offense anyone or anyone's opinion,and im sorry if i made u angry and upset,but u could respond me more politely,cause after all this is a civilized discussion,right?you could say what you thinke is wrong,or something like that

Leyton needs to give it up. They have no chemistry and look disgustiing together.
Also I read someones comment accusing BLers yet again of having fake acounts...Seriously, deal with it Brucas has a larger fanbase.

first,about a comment down there from tara i have to correct the quote she wrote
lucas:mom,what did u do when dan didnt LOVE U BACK?how did you get over it?
karen:when i do i will get back to u!
yes,and this was right after brook broke up with lucas,and she said u dont miss me and all the other stuff u all know.lucas asked this question because he was worried about brook,because he wanted to know that can brook get over him,because he didnt love her back the way she deserved and deep down he knew it(and thank god brook did move on).and about some other comment that said "brucas wasnt like whitey and camilla"isnt a good reason and that everyone's love is different from the other ones,i should say yes
its different,but they didnt say they had to be exactly like them,what they meant was that their love for each other wasnt true love,
like someone said it was like a high school romance,and they realized it themselves.and someone said peyton screwed brucas,i have to say,it was lucas' feelings towards peyton that ruined brucas(althogh he did his best to deny them and hide them,something that he did again when he was with lindsay,but in both times eventually his true feelings came out)
and besid i really love brook,she deserves to be with someone who can love her completely and with his whole heart,and i know and she realized it herself that lucas cant love anybody the way he loves peyton or as much as he loves peyton.(although he have a problem to admit that)in naly's wedding:
lucas:i love u,i dont know how els to say it
brook:how about to show it........why dont u ever let me all the way in?(while she pointed at his heart in the same time).anyway the point of the questino is about leyton,but i had to said those things.as for leyton i'd like to remind a quote that brook said in naleys wedding:when things get hard,when every thing changes,true love remains the same.
its been like 5 or 6 years(or even more)that they love eachother,and they still do love eachother,although i admit both of them screwed a lot,but they were and still are so young,and people in young age makes a lot of mistakes,we all have made our own mistakes,so i believe they should not give up.and im sorry for my english,its not my first language.

to who ever that sent that pathetic message two comments down
you must revolve youre life around this show too much, because you sound like if peyton and lucas arn't end game, your going to die
the only one who sounds insecure about thier love life is you

but whatever. my vote goes to brooke and lucas, but truly, if they don't get back together, i'm NOT going to go into cardiac arrest.

oh,and one more thing about the last comment before me,lucas told brook that he is the guy for her,but i have to remind he also took it back later.
so my final word is that lp should not give up,though i admit im tired of this,so please let these two be together.

oh,and one more thing.about the last comment before me,i have to remidlucas told brook im the guy for you,but he also took it back later

brucas was over,long time ag.i dont undrestand why some people insist so much that they have to be toghether,they realized it themselvese that they were not meant to be,why dont u guys get it?brucas is not even there anymore,the choice is between peyton and lindsay.and i have to tell u that i watched every season several times,and im sure that mark considered lucas and peyton to end up toghether since the beginig,cause even when brook and luke were together,there was always such a doubt in brook's eyes about lucas' feelings,cause she knew that deep down he loved peyton.but i think the reason that many people hate leyton is that in real life they r in brook's position,they r hurt because someone didnt love them because of somebody els

LP neeeeeeds to give it up already...damn it! their story line wasnt interesting in s1 and its not interesting now. They are just a miserable couple, and have zero chemistry.
Here's why they dont belong togther:
-They are fake
-They look alike
-They are boring
-They dont grow as a couple
-They are wayyyyyyy better with other people (Lucas with Brooke and Peyton with Jake)
-They are annoying and pathetic
-They are too depressing
-They have no personality
-Both Lucas and Peyton need Brooke in their lives to have some personality
-They hurt people
-They cheat
-They have never fought for each other
-They bail on each other
-They dont deserve a happy ending
-Lucas belongs with Brooke
-Peyton belongs with Jake
-S2
-S3
-They are better off as friends
-They make people not watch OTH
-They make the worst couples ever look good
-They make no sense
-Peyton is too obssesed with Lucas
-They have no couple like issues
- Lucas said "I do" to Lindsey
- Lucas said "I hate you" to Peyton
-Their love is not reciprocal
-Lucas never seems interested in Peyton except in S1 we all know it was just a crush
-Lucas's response to Brooke's "ILY" was "ILY too Pretty girl"
-Lucas's response to Peyton's "ILY" was "OH"
- He wanted to try again with Brooke
-Brooke Davis is the one for Lucas Scott
-Lucast Scott is the guys for Brooke davis (His words not mine)
-Brooke's his pretty girl and Peyton's his....ummm umm... nothing!
- Broody belongs with Cheery
-Lucas and Brooke were fun
- Brucas had amazing chemistry
-Peyton proposed to Jake
-Lucas was Brooke's first Love
-Jake was Peyton's first love
-Brucas, Naley and Jeyton is the way its suppose to be

Can you honestly image the show just being about Leyton? It would be the worst show ever. With Peyton painting emo art and Lucas on his laptop. While emo music plays in the background.
Thank God for Brucas, Naley and Jeyton!

HERE IS WHAT LP's concept of LOVE is: "If we can't be together, we can't be happy. We are only happy when we have each other and we both know that. That's why I want you so much. I wanted to be with you so much. Just because I go saying no to your proposal (Peyton) and I said "I do" to another girl (Lucas) doesn't mean the end. I still want you. All the time. Even when it makes me sick and I cry a lot. You and I SHOULD be together. I love you."

I don't care which ways Mark wants to end it...if he wants Leyton to be end-game then whatever. I never approved of this couple to be a romantic kind. Platonic and meaningful, yes. They have a special, complex connection. But not as a romantic couple.LEYTON are MORE THAN FRIENDS but also LESS THAN LOVERS. So if LP is end-game, then that's just sad. OTH lost one point on that part. At least we still have Naley.

Leyton all the way. I've watched the season from the beginning and its always been a fight between Brucas and Leyton. Even when Luke was with Brooke he always came back to Peyton and even in the 5th season when Luke was with Lindsey he still looked back at Peyton. If Mark puts Brucas back together I probably will be ready to leave OTH for good. Everyone says they broke up b/c of the divorce in real life and yes that is partially true, but why would you want a couple on TV to be so fake when you know they dislike each other in real life. In the beginning they had chemistry but now if they are back together it will just look utterly sad and a desperate attempt to make the so called fans happy. So to me its Leyton all the way and hopefully Brooke can find someone else in the meantime.

Urgh. Leyton. The spoilers are absolutely AWFUL. I thought Mark said he would make the decision who to take to Vegas ultimately on the poll, which was Brooke!! (right?)

There are so many more Brucas fans, and new ones regularly, despite Mark romantically ignoring Brucas, except for about 2 episodes this season.

If Leyton are endgame, Mark had better get ready for thousands of venomous e-mail, and nasty parcels - and thats just from me.

(Jokes about the parcels, but not about the hate mail. I wont stop for years, until I release all the pent-up anger/frustration, if BL aren't together.)

I want to know why some people think Lucas and Peyton are soulmates? WHY? Because Lucas had a crush on her throughout school? Because they almost got in a hit in run? Because he fixed her car? Because they cheat on people to satisfy their needs? Because Lucas uses recycled lines on her? Because they had sex in a dirty motel room? Because they had a cookie dough fight they couldn't pull off to save their lives?

They are so boring! There is absolutely nothing interesting about this couple. They like the same music, they wear the same clothes, they have the same hair, they're both tortured - when did this become a good thing by the way? Did I miss where they became epic? He wrote a book based on what? A bloody leg, cheating, and a psycho stalker? So Peyton is weak, that makes their love undeniable? I don't get it! The writers just needed to shove them in somewhere a long the way.

I love brucas; they formed out of undeniable love for two people. Leyton was made out of Cheating and selfish heartbreaking confessions. Brucas just feels better in my opinion.

I know everyone has there own opinion and I appreciate them, so this was just my opinion of the relationships, and I am in no way bashing anyone, and I apologize if someone takes it that way. This is just the thought of a Brucas fan.

lucas and peyton are so DISGUSTING together
in season 4 i was llterally throwing up at the site of them being together EVERY SINGLE SECOND
wayyyy to much cheese
they are just lying to themselves. even peyton just said that half of her just wanted to be with lucas, because she like the idea of it
brooke loves him. i can tell

It has to be peyton and lucas.. i myself and i know several others who will not watch the show if it is not lucas and peyton!!!

I just read the new spoiler and OMG!
Im done...Im going to watch OTH anymore.
Mark are you serious?!? Leyton? come on its gottat be Brucas it just has end it with them...That couple has been through so much, their always there for each other thats how you know for sure that they belong togther. Leyton does nothing but hurt people closest to them and disgust people. They little to no chemistry and send a bad message. This whole epic love this HAS to stop! Leyton is NOT epic at all....I cant even think of a couple worst than them.
Majority of OTH fans like Brucas better, then why would you even go with that digusting couple?

Leyton needs to give it up!!! god...Im soo sick of seeing these two pathetic characters together. Lucas and Brooke were soo much better. I just cant believe the new spoilers they are soo upsetting...I cant believe Mark would do that to us Brucas fans again! seriously Mark you better get it right in the end...stop playing with us Leyton beyond boring...I dont know why you cant see that!
BRUCAS <3, Naley, Jeyton is the way to go Markie.
Brucas forever and ever!

Lucas and Peyton need to give it up already. They are hopeless as a couple. All of season 4 and season 5 revolved around them and I think we can all say that they dont have what Brooke and Lucas or Jake and Peyton had. We all know that they can be happy with other people...much much much happier. Lucas with Brooke and Peyton with Jake. Thats the way its suppose to be. Everyone on the show telling them that they are "epic" or "meant to be" is not good enough.
I have never shipped Leyton not even in season 1. I just couldnt ship a couple that cheats and hurts people. That is not love. Their love is never reciprocal. They have never fought for each other. They bail on each other the second things get tough. Where as Brooke and Lucas have stuck together through everyting, they have fought for each other.
Making Leyton endgame would mean that its ok to cheat and hurt the people closest to you. Leyton is definitely NOT the ultimate OTH couple. They never were and I dont think they ever can be. They NEED to give it up!!!Mark needs to put an end to this disgusting couple.

Here's why LP should not end up together...it's simple...

most of the LP fans do not deserve a happy LP ending for crucifying BLers since the beginning...gloating and bragging, even when brucas were together.

just as LP do not deserve to be together.

LP have lied their way to get together from the beginning (have lied to everyone and their mother, not to mention themselves), and they are still in season 5, currently lying their way to be together now

95% of the LP fans tend to brag and gloat...and trust me, this is on every single One Tree Hill forum i've ever been on.

i am sick of those arrogant high-horsed lper who act like their mark schwan.

always crucifying us...why do we still ship brucas? luke was a bad boyfriend blah blah blah

let me ask u why do u still ship LP...he treated her like crap just the same when they were apart.

95% of the lp fanbase want to take everything they think is good from the BL relationships, they want to suck the life out of BLers, they make shipping fictional couples not fun anymore.

these spoilers are getting to the lpers heads...

they refuse to acknowledge that brucas has a chance.

we brucasers DO know that lp has a bigger chance, but we also believe brucas has a chance too.

when it's just BL, luke changes brooke to be a better person, just as brooke changes luke to be a better person.

when lucas and peyton are together, they are the most selfish, and inconsiderate couple i have ever seen on tv.

woops I meant I completely concur with Adventure86 lol

WOW Laura that was very very well said...I concur 110%
Brooke and Lucas belong together always have always will...We all know that Peyton was much much happier with Jake...so please Mark do the right thing and make Brucas endgame...I will be extremely sad if they are not! I have watched the show again and again and I seriously tried to like Leyton but I a just couldn't...I did not watch 5 seasons of this show for you to make this cheating, lying, fake couple that has no chemistry what-so-ever called Leyton to be endgame...I beg of you!
It saddens me that you would Make Lucas's character propose to Peyton again...I have very very little respect for Peyton and if she says "yes" to Lucas's proposal...I will have absoloutely NO respect for Peyton.

If Brucas and Jeyton aren't endgame then what the hell were seasons 2 and 3 and part season 4 for?
Just so you know S4 sucked and you didnt cater to Brucas fans at all thats why we feel ignored most of the time! Because even when Brucas was together Leyton had soo many scenes together.

Please Mark please...make Brucas, Naley and Jeyton endgame thats the way its suppose to be, and everybody knows it. You have 1 season to redeem youself...make history and do something unpredictable! like Joey and Pacey

I am a huge fan of the show and all its characters... i think Peyton is awesome! but i just dont feel the chemistry with her and Lucas.... they are friends and they are good at friends ..... i am however a brucas fan ..... i am watching season 3 right now, and its just reminding me of there love for one another, honestly him and peyton never had the same chemistry.

well, at this point, brucas doesn't make any sence.. even if they had a good chemistry.. now its not even about brooke.. now, the thing is.. Peyton or lindsay..and, come one.. we all know, that lucas and peyton are meant to each other, the whole novel thing...it is so obvious!!
i'm TOTALY FOR LEYTON!

LUCAS
+
PEYTON
=
TRUE LOVE ALWAYS

if anyone watched the interview with the writer, mark, he said that he has been looking at the polls and he said brooke and luke own the majority of the votes, with peyton and luke behind them, and then of course lindsey and luke who own only a few votes.
he said that after some thought, his decision on who he will be taking to vegas will ultimately be based on what the people want
i for one, am rooting for brooke and lucas!
this is going to be very interesting

Brooke and Lucas, Peyton and jake, nathan and Haley - enough said..

i think that brooke and lucas are good together
remember at the start of season 4 when brooke broke up with lucas?

lucas: mom? you loved dan in highschool didn't you?
karen: strangely enough yes
lucas: how did you get over it when he stopped missing you?
karen: when i do, i'll get back to you

in season 5 i noticed that in the ep of when lucas and lindsey were getting married, brooke pictured herself in the wedding dress she made for lindsey, because she always thought she was going to marry lucas, i had a feeling brooke still loves lucas

brucas all day

I'm sick of Leyton! They do not have chemistry together. Yeah, it seemed like at first they were destined to be together but the fact is that Peyton has better chemistry with jake and lucas has better chemistry with brooke. that's how it should end. it should be NALEY, JEYTON AND OF COURSE BRUCAS. Everybody who likes LEYTON is because it seemed since the beggining that they were meant to be, but if you really look at the chemistry it's just not there. When I see peyton and lucas together it reminds me of his relationship with haley but they sleep together. It's more of a friendship!
BRUCAS 2GETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BECAUSE THEIR HEARTS ARE THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Leyton is old new. They need to bring back Brucas! I love Brooke and Lucas together. They are soo cute together! I want them to be an item again. I don't really like Peyton's chracter. She gets do dark and I thought her and Jake made a really good couple and she was really good with Jenny. So those are my thoughts about Leyton! BRING BACK BRUCAS

i dont understand why people are still routing for brucas anyway..the whole entire beginning of season 5..brooke knew that lucas still loved peyton and that they were going to get together. she even told peyton to go get him..so i honestly dont think she would do that to her best friend again..even in season 4 when they got together brooke told him to go to her...just doesnt look like its in the picture. lucas started writing again when she came back..and the novel was obviously about her. Even when they were about to get married he looked out at her sitting down. In "In da club" after she kissed him..he pulled away..but looked at her again and pulled her in. its always been there it always will be! so brucas fans..just give up :)

In some ways One Tree Hill reminds me of Dawson's Creek. Originally Joey and Dawson were set up and "destined" to be together. But eventually it was really clear that Joey and Pacey had more chemistry together. Even though Lucas and Peyton were supposed to be together from the start, I think it would be very cool if the writers were able to overcome the original plan and follow the course of events that has happened. Lucas and Brooke had wonderful chemistry. They work better onscreen. I've had enough "Leyton,"

The Ultimate OTH Couple is NOT LEYTON.no way in hell.comeon?!

its NALEY!!!shheeesh. you people. Leyton is so screwed up.its like impossible.

naley :P
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I would be really disappointed if Lucas and Peyton don't end up together. I can't beleive that it's even possible that after all the grief season 5 put us through looking at the two of them yearn for eachother painfully (even though Luas was engaged), that they could end up apart. I think I would stop watching if they don't get together. I mean, we ha to at let try it one last time! This is a very important story line for the show. It was the foundation of the entire last season! What's all the fuss for if they don't end up together. Lucas and Linsay irritates me.

I'm for Lucas and Peyton!

In the beginning I really loved Lucas and Peyton together but since the second season I can't really feel the chemistry between them. I don't know if Brooke is the right girl for Lucas. I like them when their together but whenever they were apart I so didn't understand the way Brooke behaved. But I totally fell in Love with the relationship between Peyton and Jake. I just loved them in the first two seasons. They are so perfect for each other. I hope Bryan Greenberg is returning to One Tree Hill now that October Road is finished though I don't know why he left the show in the first place.
But apart from that I don't care if Leyton exists or not. I'd just like it to be a final decision for once. I'm really fed up with this whole breaking up and getting back together thing.
But anyway the ultimate OTH couple for me is Nathan and Haley. This family is so sweet.

if the story does not end up with Leyton's unity, i will lose hope and might stop watching the show altogether. S6 did bring much agony. i felt for Peyton. no prom queen waits for anyone like that. if Lucas does not find his way back to her...at least bring Jake Jigielski back.

I am so tired of Lucas and Peyton! They both cant figure out what they want and when they do, they can never make it work. It makes less interested in their characters and watching them. And when Peyton is depressed about Lucas all the time, it makes her character quite boring. Yes, they had a connection at the start but in their own way, all the couples had connections. They just have a very strong friendship but can never seem to make it work when it is more than that. I think we need to bring back Jake for Peyton because that is the only relationship in which she has been truly happy, there was no sneaking or cheating behind friend's backs to be together and there was no drama between the couple that lasted 5 seasons. Jake and Peyton had a true connection and they were an amazing couple, a family. I believe that Brooke and Lucas have a stronger romantic connection and bond with eachother than Lucas and Peyton.
Naley. Brucas. Jayton.
:)

If you agree and believe that Jake and Peyton belong together, please sign this petition to get Jake back on the show and in the arms of his princess! Peyton and Jake are meant to be, just like Nathan and Haley and Brooke and Lucas!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/jakepeyton/index.html

NO MORE LEYTON!!
BRING BACK JAYTON!!

I think that Lucas and Peyton are destined to be together since season one. it's like derek and meredith in grey's anatomy!Certain couples are bound to be because of the chemistry but also because the story ,although other people come and go, remains their story since the beginning and forever.

Leyton have to be together.
I know, they hurt theirselfs when they were together, but they also had the greatest time in season 4, they were fun and really, REALLY happy. Come on, everyone knows that the word hurt comes with the word love. Who's dating or even married obviusly have already been hurt by your partner, but when you get together, when your partner tells you he's sorry, when he/she tells you he/she love you and you apologyse, don't you feel this amazing feeling? You know what? This is one of the most amazing feelings of love. Guys, can't you see that is always been Lucas and Peyton? They meant to be together. And if they don't, i would be so upset, i might don't believe in love anymore. Brooke has already forget Lucas, and he neither! They are great friends... Brooke has to be with Chase, they are so cute!
And you guys, i can see that you are all so angry about Peyton, but you should be mad at Lucas, he is the one that is wrong, he is the one that is always unsure about who he has to be. Come on, if Peyton is so bad why would Brooke be her friend? You should think about that...
LEYTON = TRUE LOVE ALWAYS.

I would like to see Peyton and Lucus together it's been long over due. There is always something in the way when it comes to the both of them. I think it's time for them to be together. We've all seen what they look like when their apart (we got it). If anything that's what were really tired about, the fact that their always close, but never quite there. We need to see how a relationship will be with them together once and for all and if it does not work out at least we can say they tired and it just didn't work out. As for Brooke, they need to return Chase back for her I think they would make a better couple. Right about now Lucus and her are should just stay great friends.

i think the best couple in these series is brucas. leyton doesn't have that chemistry that is really obvious at brucas. i am totally for brucas as i think they are perfect for each other. the way lucas changes brooke and the way brooke changes him are absolutely wow. leyton is boring

Leyton may be the same worlds and want the same things but they repel when tests for endurance call their bluff. And they just want to keep each other to feed their own selfish desires. Luke wanted to marry Peyton so he could have what he used to have with Brooke. Peyton refused the proposal because she knows she could not have Lucas the same way she had everything with Jake. Lucas and Peyton getting married while sharing this 'epic love' is a great idea, Mark, but there is not development, no real trials they have to defeat so how convincing can they be as a couple, let alone be married? They never gave any effort to be together and once they are, they discuss about promises that will be broken or they angst each other until they grow weary and want to be the "epic love" they were (have they ever been?)

The real knock-out is their concept of happiness together:

BRUCAS: "Even if you can't be with me, I will be happy for you because I have you in my heart and I'm there in yours. And even if you marry somebody else or if I marry somebody else, you're the friend I go to for my good times and bad times. You support me and believe in me (Brooke) and you listen to me when I hurt (Lucas) I love you."

LEYTON: "If we can't be together, we can't be happy. We are only happy when we have each other and we both know that. That's why I want you so much. I wanted to be with you so much. Just because I go saying no to your proposal (Peyton) and I said "I do" to another girl (Lucas) doesn't mean the end. I still want you. All the time. Even when it makes me sick and I cry a lot. You and I SHOULD be together. I love you."

See what I mean?

BRUCAS, JEYTON and NALEY forever! =3

JEYTON: He gave her strength to overcome her emotional shortcomings and he didn't have to write a book about it

I get it. Leyton is always there. Yes, yes, they love each other! But to be in a relationship that entails commitment and emotional supoort? Lucas is better committed to Brooke, even as friends in s5. Jake might have left but he said that someday he will come back for her. Peyton doesn't have to wait but she doesn't have to confuse and fool herself either with these notions about being with Lucas forever. Leyton exists forever but not in a romantic sense. Leyton is a beautiful connection but more of a platonic form. Leyton is filled with complexities and trappings but more of two people who reflect each other's fears, preferences and insecurities. Leyton is incomparable but not always in the best light. Leyton is both a bargain and a deadend. If friends, they grow but once they try to be involved romantically, they end up destroying each other.

Brucas. I believe they could still be together. But Lindsey seems good for Lucas too. And Peyton? She can survive. She learned how to so why is she being so impatient and willing to settle down for the least availability? Because it's that, available? Like Lucas? Whenever he was, she doesn't want him. Then when he isn't, she wants him back. Really. This isn't working at all. Leyton is just not working anymore. Mark...dearest Mark, don't try making Leyton so epic and meant-to-be when all signs, seriously, point to the contradiction.

Truth to be told, I like Leyton pictures. I collect them. They look so good and happy in the banners and wallpapers and icons the LP fans make that I collect them. But I look at these pictures and I see Ally Mcbeal and John Cage, Anna and Seth from the OC, Lily and Ted from "How I met your mother" hell, even Will and Grace (but the last two cited are Laley-oriented as well but i hope you get my point. These are examples of platonic love) and the Leyton kissing scenes seem..wrong. No combustion. Too awkward. Leyton posses the quality of strong "same sides" attracting each other but in the end "has to repel when a romantic angle enters." Two people can connect like Leyton and remain as friends. They have once. So, Mark, really, wtf?

There is a post floating around on here somewhere from an LPer stating the reason she doesn't like BL is because of the BL fans immaturity, and I just had to laugh. Mainly because me and her have the same views, just on different ships. I have gotten to the point where I will like LP, and then an LPer will completely ruin it for me by making some rude, stupid, or completely immature comment that completely turns me off of the couple.

I guess the point I am trying to make is DON'T be so biased about who ships what couple because truth is there is just as many immature, whiny LPers as there are immature whiny BLers...

leyton needs to give it up...they do not have the kind of love that makes you fight for the other at all costs...lucas broke up with peyton after she said someday and didnt call her for a year...peyton saw the cheek kiss and ran away without even being there for lucas on his big day...if your fear of committment overcomes your love for that other person then its not worth it

I think for season 6 it should be lucas and peyton and brooke and chase(he's always there when brooke needs him and plus she deserves to be happy) of course naley she be together I'm a leyton fan but can they show the other charcters more cuz I feel like the shows only about leyton please put chase with brooke

P.s. Can't wait for season 6

Simply can't get over the fact that all the LP'ers keep sayin that luke always goes to peyton even if he's with brooke blah blah. Ok, the first time they cheated, Luke was the one who learned more from his mistake.

He made the effort to make things right with brooke, and tried to become a better person and he and brooke became really close again. Even peyton noticed this (when she was with jake) and told brooke that it wud definately not be inappropriate for her to have feelings for luke.

Peyton knew about the letters brooke wrote to luke, still at the end of 3x16 she goes and kisses luke again coz she's about to die. Luke DID NOT cheat on brooke, peyton being such a close friend, it just caught him off guard and he wud definately not say or do anything to get peyton more upset in that situation. Fine that was just a moment coz peyton thought she was dying. The most messed up part is, she's starting to have feelings for luke AGAIN. But she goes to jake and asks him if he wants to get MARRIED??? While jake also knows she has feelings for luke, that gives her the right to play with the jake's heart tooo ??? To have told brooke that she kissed luke might've been fine, but to tell brooke she's having the same feelings for luke but she'l bury them ???

I wonder if Luke knows that Peyton had asked Jake to marry her ?

Please Mark, do you really want to end the show with a couple which has to cheat to get together or hurt the feelings of others they love ???

In reply to Brittany Jean

Reasons why BL should be end game.

- Because Luke had given exactly 2 embarassing speeches in his life, and they were both with brooke (S 3)
- Because he certainly made predictions about peyton since 7th grade, but he stopped making predictions about peyton once he was with BROOKE (Hailey mentioning the predictions to peyton - S 5)
- Because KEITH told luke that I think You're good! (S 1 - when luke chose brooke over peyton)
- Because luke gave his room to brooke so that she didnt have to move to california (S 2)
- Because KEITH always saw brooke and luke together and he noticed how happy luke was (S 3 - when keith returns)
- Because luke was willing to PROVE his love to brooke which he did (S 3)
- Because he did not say "OH" to brooke when brooke told luke she loved him
- Because luke did not have to be persuaded by a number of people to realise that he loves brooke
- Because even after luke cheated on brooke (peyton), and brooke broke luke's heart (chris kellar), they both had it in each other's hearts to forgive, thats how much they love each other (S 1-3)
- Because technically BROOKE is the ONLY one who accepted luke's proposal :P (5x05 anyone ? :P)
- Because Brooke was willing to give up everything for luke (she told this to victoria), and that was one of the few times she talked about love, coz luke was the one she had truly loved and cared for (S 5)
- Because luke said I LOVE YOU to brooke, while he said I HATE YOU to peyton, and then told Peyton I Don't Hate you.He never told peyton "I LOVE YOU" and for the sake of true love, I hope he doesnt (S 5)

BL has to be end game. It wud just kill me if LP end together.If LP is end game, OTH wud never be the same for me, and I would probably not rewatch most of the seasons/episodes coz knowing that he's gonna end up with a person like Peyton, makes me sick to my stomach.

Brucas!! It's been seen time and time again that Peyton and Luke can be much happier with other people, i.e., Jake and Brooke. Peyton was even happier with Pete from Fall Out Boy, a guy whom she didn't know too well, then she is with Lucas. They don't have the on-screen chemistry as lovers, and are much better off as friends.

Season Three was by far my favorite season thus far. The chemistry for Brucas is immense, and while many say that Leyton has an emotional connection, I think they work better as friends. Throughout season three, Lucas has done things for Brooke that he has never done for Peyton: Like write letters, give embarrassing speeches in the rain, refuse to be non-exclusive, forgiving her for sleeping with Kellar, and there are so many more. Yeah, Lucas always ends up saving Peyton, but that has more to do with their friendship than their relationship as lovers. Lucas proposed Peyton and said no, and to me, that should have ended the relationship. She was willing to live in Savannah for Jake but not live in Tree Hill for Lucas? I don't think it's fair to continue forcing fans to like Leyton. Brucas was more natural on-screen and as Lucas said, Brooke is the girl for him.

Well first of all, i'm a Naley fan. I think they are THE epic couple of oth.
But someone definetly screwed up somewhere with this whole "love-triangle" thing. It was obviously meant to be him and Peyton from the start, but then he started dating Sophia in real life, so they decided to change it and make Brucas seem like an "epic" couple. But then they split up, so they had to switch it all back to Peyton again.
Basically, thats what happens when actors decide to have their own thing off-screen, and the writers have to write it into the show. so now cos they thought both couples were gonna be the main one at some point and wrote it that way, the fans are now divided. Anyone seeing the moral of this story here?
Long story short (too late but still), Naley forever.
The Leyton/Brucas love triangle is always gonna be there now so i'm just sticking with the couple that actually are "epic"

The problem with Peyton is that she ALWAYS goes for Luke after he's with someone. I remember luke telling her "Do you have, like an alarm in your head that goes off everytime im happy with someone else?" (he is obviously referring to lindsay as well as brooke otherwise he wud'nt have said everytime).
Notice in the arguement which LP had in 5 x 05.(im takin only parts of the arguement)

Lucas : You're the one I want next to me when my dreams come true, you're the one I want next to me when they don't.

Peyton : Whitey Believes in you and Nathan needs you. If I ask you to walk away, you're gonna get up one day and resent me, the same way I WOULD feel if you asked me to walk away from my dream. (i think i got it right)

Peyton : If you can't think our love can make it one year, I don't see how we can be talking about forever right now (She could have easily put it in a much better and non offensive way)

Going to the whole Brooke-Peyton thing.

In episode 15- She almost chased Chase away after she stole Luke from Brooke again.
When Ian had them both tied up, she said "I wish he kills you first". Despite what brooke said about her mom. Another instance.
Episode 4 x 01, Brooke comes to see Luke at the end, Peyton passes some ridiculous comments that I don't remember.
I just can't stand Peyton and as years have gone by Brooke has become a better person while Peyton ....well I don't want to say anything more about peyton. I just hope that BL get together coz I have never loved a couple more. Ryan/Marissa were a favourite till the end of season 3. Then the OC ended for me and was really upsetting. I just hope the couple I support in OTH gets together. BL :)

ahhh, what a question. i strongly believe leyton need to give it up. as soon as i saw the first episode peyton became my favourite character, and i was aiming for her to get with luke, a guy who saw into her soul, the connection between them was undeniable, its deep and strong, they have so much in common. but i quickly turned off leyton as a couple, in my opinion they are a beautiful idea but a lacking reality, they have too much in common and are better off as friends. i think peyton needs someone to make her stronger and beleive in herself and lucas needs someone to balance him out, in the end my support of broody couples doesn't last long (like ryan and marissa)a broody person needs a non broody person, or atleats on tv it needs to be that way.
if leyton had been better developed earlier on then perhaps i would still support them, but other than that connection (which is not love, and is just as suited if not more so to friendship not as lovers) i just don't see two people IN love with each other, i never really saw them fall in love, i saw a boy who had a crush on a girl he didn't know, and a girl who was intrigued with the world lucas offered her and a stable shoulder to lean on, they understand each other but that doesnt mean they belong to each other, in season one i dont think they got a chance to expand their feelings into real IN LOVE love, and over the next couple of seasons their relationship strengthened as a friendship and the show showed how they can both fall head over heels in love with other people, strong loves they both unsuccessfully fought for, yet leyton never fought for each other, they always walk away too easily, willing to give up on what they have or what they could have, their season 4 relationship reeked of settlement, and by that point their romantic chemistry was not even half of the potential they showed originally, and i couldn't help but compare it to their other relationships and judge leyton as lacking. dont get me started on season 5, this season just proved to me even more why they don't belong together (as much as its said leyton are soulmates, i have not felt it or seen real emotional proof that its any more than an idea) and i think lucas needs to have some time alone to realise what he really wants before jumping into another relationship, especially one as serious as marriage. for me leyton is getting tiring and boring, do i believe they could get back together and be happy? yes i do, i think the writers could pull that off, but if they do it they need to have more build up on both sides of the relationship to pull it off successfully, and happiness can be easily written into a show, and if it does happen i for one won't buy it, i'll watch it but all i will see is two actors acting in love, two characters who think they should be together instead of two characters who belong together and are in love. gawd, if leyton do get back together let it please be so they can get it out of their systems and realise for themselves that it is just a beautiful idea and nothing more, that the love lucas wrote about in his book is in fact more that what they shared or share, so they can move on and truely be happy and in love without it looking like simple acting.
Thats just how i feel, in the end each fan has their own opinion with just as strong reasoning, it all comes down to the fact when a fan watches a couple either they feel their love or they don't, and no matter what happens or what logical rational arguement a fan hears they will continue to ship their couple because they feel the love. so some will fight for leyton while others won't, but its not us who decides (sadly) it depends on where Mark and co feel the love.

I started to watch this show when I was 20 years old and I fall in love brucas story.. brucas teach me love and faith.. and many many thinks....I am so thankfull sophia and chad for their chemistry...

First of all, I'm definitely pulling for Lucas and Peyton. Anyone who says that Lucas and Brooke should be together are out of their minds. How many times do you want them to go back and forth??? I know that Lucas and Peyton have broken up a couple of times, but keep in mind, they are still growing up and sometimes people make poor decisions, i.e. Lucas over reacting when Peyton said she wanted to wait. Relationships are not easy, but hopefully you learn from your mistakes, and if given antoher chance you make things right. For Mark to end the show with Brucas together would make the show pointless and ridiculous. As far as the people who would even mention Jake... what are you thinking??? That was never ment to be and you know it. In the end, it's up to Mark. Hopefully he's not too driven on drama, and retains some substance in this storyline. At any rate, I hope this back and forth crap ends soon. Even I'm getting tired of this.

why is leyton even being considered as the ultimate oth couple, brucas and jeyton shouldn't be considered either
everyone that watches the show knows that naley is the ultimate couple and is the only for sure endgame, so all the leyton and brucas and jeyton fans need to just grow up and stop fighting i mean seriously there is a 50/50 shot for both leyton and brucas you will find out soon enough, no need to fight about it. Naley is and always will be the ultimate oth couple!

I just had an idea I think you guys might like. You should do a poll, for fighting words. And see witch side people agree with. I always want to know what side the public leans toward but when there are SO many comments it is hard to keep track.

Honestly, I think Leyton is boring. I hate seeing them together! The all TLA thing is really really really boring! If they end up together, I don't think I will even watch season 6! What I like about Brucas, is that all of there scenes are great ! You feel that they are happy together, but Peyton is always crying..her only interesting relationship was with Jake. They had a lot of chemistry, and so do Brucas ! With the LP relationship, you don't feel that they will stay together forever and be happy ! Peyton said NO ,and now that Lucas finally is over her she's like: "Oh...looks like I made a mistake!"Just like she did in the first season when Lucas was with Brooke! And even Lucas said that every time he's happy with a girl (Brooke or Lindsey) she had to come between them! She destroys all his relationships and when she finally has him, she refuses to marry him! She needs to let him go. LP really makes me sick! I'm so tired of it! I really like what Mark Schwahn (how di you spell it ?)wrote in the other seasons ,but now it's really boring!! It's just like he's the one who's holding on to Leyton relationship and he can't see that the the most OTH fans really hate this on-off-on-off relationship between them! They are only happy together when they cheat! SO PLEASE MARK !! Stop the boring Leyton story!!And let her meet someone new and let Bl be together again! Because ,people that are ment to be together always find their way in the end !! And LP=TLA=>Teenage Love Affair !!!

I know this is supposed to be about L/P but people are using the term "ultimate OTH couple" and they have L/P and B/L in the same sentence when seriously people, Keith and Karen are better suited than those two couples as the "ultimate OTH couple". The REAL ultimate OTH couple is obviously Nathan and Haley. So it's much appreciated if people wouldn't forget that. L/P maybe the first "meant to be" couple but the two have strayed too far from each other to be the ULTIMATE couple. I think they deserve each other and everything but they are NOT the ultimate couple.

I'm from Poland, and Poland love Brucas. Brucas was/is true love, BL always will.
LP is no chemistry. LP is so boring. LL is even better than LP.

Why Brucas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BauA6IDebNQ

let's see.. !!

Thanks! BL always!

As a Brucas fan, let me just clarify something for some people-

Do I think that LP are liars and cheaters? Yes, watch the show- they lie and cheat and hurt those around them. So the question now is why would BLers want L to be with B? Well, I can't speak for everyone but I can tell you what I think and the impression I've gotten from many others-

Lucas doesn't deserve Brooke. She deserves so much more than him. That's probably the only reason I'd want LP to be together- so they could be miserable together. However, why I do ship BL is because when L is with B, he ceases to do Mr.-I-have-a-fascination-with-death and he's actually happy and the two of them together don't betray and lie to those that care about them. But more importantly, Brooke is happy with him. That's why I want BL together, because it's what I think B wants. Truthfully, I could care less about L, almost as little as I care about P, but if L is what B wants, then I'm all for it.

I know this isn't what the debate should be about but I was getting tired of this being brought up.

Also, saying that LP should be together because Chad and Sophia shouldn't have to work together is the weakest argument ever.

ok, forget about lucas, brooke, peyton, and everyone else on the show... think about it for a minute.... i know we all want lucas with peyton or brooke or whomever, but remember, Mark, you know, the writer/creator... we all just need to put our faith in him. Afterall, he's kept us interested this long, and i believe he will continue doing a good job keeping us interested in the future. Not one minute of the show has been bad, so no matter who ends up with who, we all know it's gonna be good!!

Whenever this debate pops up, LP fans describe Leyton as 'epic' over and over, as if thats the best arguement they can give. 'Epic' isn't the word to use -- 'over-played' or 'drawn-out-to the point of madness' is more like it.

I ship Brucas immensely (I own quite a few purple monkeys ;) ), but I did try very hard to like Leyton, or see some sort of connection - and I am not just saying that. After watching 5 seasons, I would say Lucas and Peyton didn't bring out the worst in each other, but they certainly don't bring out the best either. Peyton doesn't seem to be interested when Lucas is single, it's only when he's with someone else that she 'realises' she is 'oh-so-helplessly-in-love' with him, and the relationship is therefore based on cheating and lying -- not exactly a solid base for a great relationship. I cant see the 'instant connection' and love at first sight - Peyton just wanted the sex if i remember correctly.

Then there comes the 'Leyton need each other and complete each other' quote that i see way to often for comfort. Actually, wasn't there the scene at Debs house on the balcony, in which Peyton named a load of reason why she didn't need him? Thought so.

Leyton have been thrown on us since the beginning, and it just shows that even with the scripts writing Leyton in for gawd knows how long, they are hopeless enough to have over half the OTH community not going for Leyton. What does this show?

Lp have a sort of love, but its a sibling love, like twins. They both brood, so they can brood together, but in the end, would you want a relationship that depressing? Hell, I wouldn't be able to even watch Chilarie scenes anymore. And its quite a selfish love, which simply starts on the wrong sort of ground.

Jeyton just had the element of surprise when they first hinted to it, then seemed so natural, plus we all loved to hate Nikki, so it was the little perfect family of Jake/Peyton/Jenny against NikkiCumSatan uniting us the Jeyton.

In answer to the actual question, they really need to give it up. Is Leyton the ultimate couple? No, Brucas Naley Jeyton all the way.

P.S. Naley are the bliddy backbone of One Tree HIll ships - they keep us sane. They are everywhere, but we can never gorw tired of them.

<33 :)

This whole topic is really irritating! All you guys argue over is how long it has taken and blah blah blah. If it only took a season for people to hook up and stay perfectly happy the show would SUCK and there would only be two seasons. Brooke is so overrated and all of her facial twitches drive me INSANE! I hate to watch her on screen with Lucas because it always feels so fake. What Peyton and Lucas has feels genuine. So stop using the "tired story line" story as an excuse. If new characters came and went all the time I wouldn't want to watch it anymore! Lucas and Peyton should be together end of story.

lucas and peyton need to end up together.. thats how its supposed to be.
he needs to be on the plane with her! they need to get married in vegas!

cant wait til 9/1!!!

I totally thrive on Lucas and Peyton. I understand all the "brucas" fans but come on...after all that Leyton has been through the last season...It would be totally screwed up of a best friend aka Brook if she decides to go back out with Lucas.....I understand the whole cheating thing...but thats water under a bridge... Brook and Lucas realize that their love is a caring love..not a romantic love. Lucas writing a book to Peyton signifies his love, proposing signifies his love. He is just stubborn.... HOWEVER>>>>>>Then again life goes on....and it is more realistic if they end up separate ways...but who cares about realism this is a TV show...SO MAKE THEM FALL IN LOVE FOREVER!!!!!!!! True Love Always <3

LP was meant to be from the start.

How about BL/LL FANS GIVE UP!

Ok obviously u all have dofferent opinions but come on face the fact LEYTON are and always will be two star crossed lovers! i mean if they are destined to be with each other they will all realationships have bumps and bruises but does that make us give up? NO! so plz why dont you guys GET OVER this brucus buisness and face the facts brucus where together in a FEW parts of OTH but the most romantic love scenes were of LEYTON! FOR GOD SAKES RE-watch ending (almost) of season 4! DESTINY!!!!!

I repeat Strongly and Proudly! LEYTON LEYTON LEYTON LEYTON ALL THE DAMN WAY!<3<3

Please, let it be Brucas...

i think Lucas needs to choose someone soooon.
someone he's going to be together with til the end of the show.
someone he will be happy with and have up and downs.
AND I SO HOPE THAT SOMEONE IS PEYTON SAWYER.

i mean they are meant to be. yeah that sounds lame, but that the way it is.

i hate the fact that so many brucas fans hat peyton, because she was a "backstabbing friend".
i think Brooke was the one who was a kinda bad friend to Peyton. Because as a friend you could definitely tell that there was something going on between lucas and peyton, i don't know i hated that triangle from the beginning.
i mean 2 best friends and one guy can't have a happy ending. But somehow they made it work, so bringing brucas back would be the worst that could happen.
i'm sure that won't happen, since Brooke is now the president of the Leyton - TLA fan club!

to come back to the start. i just think this thing: lucas and all his women and oooh who will he choose - is becoming old and boring and frustrating!
So please (Mark) finish what you started since the first second of OTH. Let Leyton finally be happy together!

LP is OTH's Ultimate Couple! ♥

I'm neither Brucas or Leyton fan. But what I know for sure that we can't always get what we want so I just hope the ending[I'm talking about ultimatum] of One Tree Hill they will make 2 different ending one with Brucas and another with Leyton. So we all can call it a day already. I don't know how they gonna do it but hell their tv show right, to many crap storyline happen already.
- Peace :D

LP are DEFINITELY the ultimate OTH couple. Everyone knows it, even if they don't want to admit it. Lucas and Peyton are soulmates. They are meant to be together, and they will be. It's as simple as that. All of One Tree Hill (which I've stuck with from DAY ONE) has led to the reunion of these two.

They need to give it up. I could go on and on about why they shouldn't be together. But you have enough of that..

So I'll just say this.. If they ever stand a chance of me personally understanding them they'd need to show it.

"How about in how you show it?"

I don't need every person, dead alive and strange, in TH telling me that they are meant to be together. I need Lucas and Peyton to act like it. At the same time. I need them to not be selfish hogs while they're together. I need build up. I need realism.

And those are all things that I'm never gonna get when it comes to them. They have proven time and time again that it's about lust and intrigue and following other peoples wishes.. but it's never about both of them wanting to be together at the same time. NEVER.

Lucas chose Peyton in S1 -yes. Without knowing her. And the minute he did, she walked away (for the 4th time in 5 episodes or so). In S2, he chose Brooke. No one told him to. She didn't show any sign of feelings for him. He just wanted to be with her. HIS CHOICE. In S3 (after a whole summer alone with Peyton) He fought for Brooke. He wanted Brooke. And no one told him to. In S4- he still fought for Brooke and wanted her until Brooke pushed him to Peyton. He only went once Skills and Brooke both sent him to her. In S5, he loved and then pined for Lindsey. And focused on Brooke when Lindsey left. He ignored everyone pushing him to Peyton. So see.. he's never actually chosen Peyton while he knew her. He may choose Peyton to go to Vegas but IMO- she's the only one that would be desparate enough to say yes to that crazy phone call anyway. Obviously Lucas isn't thinking clearly. And so now he's just decided to give in and finally listen to all of TH who are telling him to be with Peyton.

Oh and Peyton had to be told by Jake that she loved Lucas. He had to push her towards him.

I personally believe that you can't really choose love. You can't look for it. It finds you. And I'm sure that destiny has already chosen Lucas's true love. And her name isn't Peyton. :)

PS- you girls rock.

I'am sorry about my english, but it's not my first language. I don't think they need to give up. Because they have a great, amazing and beautiful story. And it's always gonna be about Lucas and Peyton. They need to each other. They extract what's best in another. When they're separates it's seems if there is something incomplete. Mark showed for us a such beautiful story about two lost soulmates, that found in each other their ways. I hope now they will happy and together! Leyton is TRUE LOVE ALWAYS! ;)

Lucas is just this superman wannabe who rescues her because he's so chivalrous (gag me now) And I think Lucas' feelings for Brooke are far more sincere than when it comes to his feelings for Peyton. Honestly, s5 was so full of Leyton crap that it's tragic and not even amusing anymore. Not communicating and still hoping to be meant to be? Fighting over a proposal and refusing to work things out? Coming back for another repeat-scene of 'the agonizing betrayal kiss'? (my P. Sawyer is an idiot and I hate Mark for doing that to her.) Why is it so hard for the whole darn Tree Hill to see that Leyton IS THE HIGH SCHOOL ROMANCE that is just a one-time fling. They keep implying it's Brucas that is just "about the sex" and just a silly crush and Peyton is Lucas' forever...but hello??!! All those prediction notes of Laley refers to Peyton as this juvenile crush of Lucas's "Make out with Peyton Sawyer." "Talk to Peyton Sawyer." Oh wtf...this hurts like hell when you process how creepy and baseless Lucas' infatuation is. It never developed into a real romance. They just sneaked around behind Nathan, then behind Brooke. Now with Lindsey (reluctant, oh-so-romantic Lucas playing hard-to-get but we all know he lands back to the same mistake that is Peyton) I just finished s5 and gosh darn it! The fictional book for Peyton is a lie. The real thing is the love letters to Brooke. The prediction note "A second chance with Brooke" is what a romance is supposed to feel and be like. And the whole comet-scientist thing? A little played-out, Luke, keep trying. Maybe you should write about the Scotts (Naley and Jamie) than waste time on repeating your forced, predictable love-love for a girl who you never saw more than just a female counterpart, an equal when it comes to misery business. Leyton...could have been acceptable if developed. Like Naley. Brucas. Jeyton. But no...it was a settlement that stemmed from Chopia divorce and Brian G's sayonara. So...REALLY, MARK? LP AGAIN???!! I get it with the whole "Your Art Matters" stuff and the "I want all the same things" stuff. But Mark could've gone further than that as the seasons proceeded and not let Leyton hang and kept stored somewhere and when it's time to pop out...BAM!! BAM!! BAM!! True Love Always...please nominate Lucas Scott's book "An unkindness of ravens" because he puts puke in PUCAS (oopps...my best friend won't like me saying that..hehehe) Yes, I'm officially bashing Leyton for reasons that they can't stop being immature around each other. Improve this couple and I might just accept it.

LEYTON is one landslide of rejection, humiliation and selfishness after another. I explained to my best friend (although I haven't fully convinced her) that Peyton went out of her way to make Lucas regret his decision to marry Lindsey ("if you want to break my heart, you don't have to propose to Lindsey to do it") and making it all about her. Lucas constructed this 'perfect love' with him and Peyton in a fictional book, blurring everyone's views and confusing Peyton. God, when there's a book written as an instructional manual to be with one guy, that would make anybody dizzy! Peyton felt like she had to live to the expectations written on the pages. The Molly girl is the epitome of LP fans who think what Lucas and Peyton have is just so worth it. I get that but Lucas' mistake is making their relationship into such a pedestal. It's not. Real relationships aren't like that.

My biggest problem with Leyton is they don't know when is the right time to fight for each other and when is the right to give up and compromise.

I also think it will be Leyton because of what happened between Chad Michael Murray and Sophia Bush in person
and please bring back Whitey i miss him!!

I've said Leyton from the beginning <33 so i'm staying with them

To Eva,
Yeah LEYTON=cheating/disater not Lucas and Peyton by themselves. And maybe we think Lucas is a BETTER person with Brooke than he is with Peyton. And from your post it sounds like Leyton is meant to be because they are such horrible people they don't they don't deserve anyone else.

I also think it will be Leyton because of what happened between Chad Michael Murray and Sophia Bush in person
and please bring back Whitey i miss him!!

I think that Lucas and Peyton were meant to be together from the begining i feel like Peyton is just a sad sack and just there. she always wanted Lucas and they were there for each other "always saving each other" and in episode 410 Peyton was the reason that Lucas came back. after seeing how things would have been. i really don't mind if it is Brucas because i also loved them together. whatever Mark decides is fine with me . i just wanna see Peyton get something happy in her life. her and Lucas broke my heart in some scenes this season and i want them to be together. i want Brooke to be with chase or somebody but i want Lucas to just pick already!! Leyton will always be there ! Lucas can deny it and her but thats the truth!

Die Leyton die. The worst couple in the history of TV. Absolutely horrible. The writers should win an Emmy for Best Monster. They have no chemistry, no principles and nothing but cheese when they're together.

basically i dont like lucas and peyton. i loveeee brucas. and peyton is being a whiney little girl. its annoying. ppl have forgotten that peyton is the one that ruined brucas. then all of a sudden its lucas and peyton that are meant to be together. like wth. it wasnt like that till peyton decided to be a backstabbing friend and come between it. and she did it before that too.

Brucas is meant to be. Leyton is just way too boring and too complicated. They will never work out. And besides peyton is just pothetically boring and always wants everyone to feel bad for her. She needs to grow up!

BRUCAS ALL THE WAY!!!!

Another thing I would like to add to all the dear Brucas fans out there...

If what Leyton has is based on cheating...why do you want the main person involved to be with Brooke? I mean, if she is so selfless herself and all as most of you "claim"

Its the most laughable thing about the triangle. LP cheat but L deserves to be with B.

WTF?